Continuing: In the prior post we discussed Isaiah 6:9 & 10 being quoted by the LORD in Matthew 13:14 & 15 as He told of those seeing and hearing His words and not understanding.
(This should be telling you that if you haven’t you should read the prior post in order to understand, while refusing it also demonstrates the cause and the dilemma. It speaks of those not willing to diligently seek understanding, and as perfectly exhibited in the comments to these posts, those contented and comfortable in their willful ignorance think it their duty to snipe at any attempts to wake them from, or that shake them in, their darkness and confusion.)
This parenthetical pause leads us to the next point seen in Isaiah 6, and it alluding to the fuller context intended by the LORD in His quoting it.
Isaiah asks the question, “how long” will this unwillingness to see and hear last? The LORD tells Isaiah it will be until it has had its full work and culminates in total desolation. The LORD in Matthew identifies the problem as He goes on from the quote to tell of how the disciples understand, by their diligently following Him (not to be confused with following the corrupt institution of the day, as now, who have become totally void of understanding and thereby unable to reproduce anything but further corruption.) He tells them it is for them to understand (because they have chosen to diligently learn directly from Him.) The LORD then tells them they have seen what many prophets have wanted to see and hadn’t – meaning it was held back for a certain time (to be released when the Holy Spirit moved upon it.)
This is specifically speaking of Isaiah question of, “How long,” and also of Jeremiah asking the same questing in Jeremiah 12:4. There he asks in part, “How long shall the land morn?” and he ends this question giving the reason, “for the wickedness of them that dwell therein.” Jeremiah goes on to tells of this consumption having come because of the people saying of the LORD, “He shall not see our last end.”
What follows in Jeremiah is the LORD specifically telling Jeremiah of the end it is meant for, the LORD seeing what they haven’t, as He asks Jeremiah the question, “If you have run with the footmen, and they have wearied you, then how can you contend with horses? and if in the land of peace, wherein you trusted, they wearied you, then how will you do in the swelling of Jordan?”
The “swelling of Jordan” tells of the time when the LORD comes upon the swelled pride of these enemies as a lion. It is upon Edom, meaning Esau who sold his birthright for these morsels of meat, as He overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah; and upon Babylon, meaning the confusion that now covers the world and wrought by these wicked men sitting in their seats of power.
We know this because it is written in Jeremiah 49:17 – 20, and then the call to come out of their confusion in Jeremiah 50:43 – 45.
Jeremiah 49
17 Also Edom shall be a desolation: every one that goes by it shall be astonished, and shall hiss at all the plagues thereof.
18 As in the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbor cities thereof, says the LORD, no man shall abide there, neither shall a son of man dwell in it.
19 Behold, he shall come up like a lion from the swelling of Jordan against the habitation of the strong: but I will suddenly make him run away from her: and who is a chosen man, that I may appoint over her? for who is like me? and who will appoint me the time? and who is that shepherd that will stand before me?
20 Therefore hear the counsel of the LORD, that he has taken against Edom; and his purposes, that he has purposed against the inhabitants of Teman: Surely the least of the flock shall draw them out: surely he shall make their habitations desolate with them.
Jeremiah 50
43 The king of Babylon has heard the report of them, and his hands waxed feeble: anguish took hold of him, and pangs as of a woman in travail.
44 Behold, he shall come up like a lion from the swelling of Jordan unto the habitation of the strong: but I will make them suddenly run away from her: and who is a chosen man, that I may appoint over her? for who is like me? and who will appoint me the time? and who is that shepherd that will stand before me?
45 Therefore hear you the counsel of the LORD, that he has taken against Babylon; and his purposes, that he has purposed against the land of the Chaldeans: Surely the least of the flock shall draw them out: surely he shall make their habitation desolate with them.
Jeremiah 12 goes on to tell of the LORD saying He has given the people into the hand of their enemies, and because the they had become as those lying in wait to attack (snipe at) those He sends with His truth and correction (as with Isaiah, as with Jeremiah, and with the LORD, and as now.)
The cause of this is as we’ve discussed, the corrupted teaching in and from all the institution of church and state, and those now sitting in these judgment seats, God’s seats, refusing to subordinate to His higher power, and the correction He sends. It is what the LORD speaks of when He tells of the corrupt tree only able to bring forth corrupt fruit, and the good tree good fruit. We see these ideas, of the corrupted fruit and the unwillingness to subordinate, in Matthew 7:17 – 23.
In the prior post we discussed Matthew 7 speaking of vision and clearing the eyes (of what has corrupted them) so to be able to see (rightly dividing the word) and thereby be able to judge with right judgment. The chapter goes on to tells of these two states of vision as the two trees, and then the insubordination is understood in the LORD’s words in verses 21 – 23 saying, “21 Not every one that says unto me, LORD, LORD, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, LORD, LORD, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.” Or as Luke records it in Luke 6:46, “And why call you me, LORD, LORD, and do not the things which I say?”
Before going on I want to make the meaning of the previous title very clear to the snipers (those hurling words as attacks, meant to disparage and disgrace as means of degrade and nullify influence.) The title is, “A Culture Unable to See or Hear it’s Being Pulled from the Fire.”
The post was attacked by Christians (claiming to be educated preachers) after first restating it as if it told of unbelievers not going to hell. The attackers not seeing its meaning nor able to understand the post (having no foundation other than the corrupted) proved the point about those it (the title) was addressing. It was meant for people just like them, who don’t see or hear it is they, people who say they follow the LORD but are (almost in total) following the creations of men, and more so the men who preach their corruption over and over, as if in a rut they are unable and unwilling to escape. These are those in danger of separating themselves from the LORD by poor choices and following those sitting in God’s seats opposing His correction.
This, now in our time, is the total falling away (apostasy) Paul speaks of in 2 Thessalonians 2:3. The paradox is the men who are the corrupted, perpetrating and perpetuating it further into degeneration, are the same sitting in these seats blaspheming the LORD’s truth and leading people deeper into despair, while claiming the darkness in them is light.
2 Thessalonians 2
5 Remember you not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now you know what withholds [holds down] that he [they] might be revealed in his [their] time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he [they] who now lets [holds down] will let, until he [they] be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the LORD shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Those studying here know, because we have diligently looked, the plural aspect of the above is correcting and error of the translators. This error is clearly seen in the follow chapter where the same people are properly defined using the same words translated in the plural. There it is a summarization telling of these men being who the LORD comes to free us from, as the problem is there again defined as this word of God’s correction not having free course (being sniped at and vilified/defamed), being interfered with and opposed by these men sitting in God’s seats teaching and preaching corruption, urging people to choose it over the LORD’s light, and His way to Truth.
2 Thessalonians 3
1 Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the LORD may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:
2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.
3 But the LORD is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.
4 And we have confidence in the LORD touching you, that you both do and will do the things which we command you.
5 And the LORD direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.
This same ignorant and corrupted teaching doesn’t see or hear, chooses the darkness of these men over the Light come into the world, as they blaspheming (demonizing and defaming) the work of the Holy Spirit. It is unforgivable because it is a choice and the LORD doesn’t force anyone to choose the light.
John 3
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believes on him is not condemned: but he that believes not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation [the wrong decision that self-condemns,] that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that does evil hate the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that does truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
This is the darkness I have been sent into, to preach this word of truth.
Romans 10
1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is [all those calling themselves God’s people,] that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believes.
5 For Moses describes the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which does those things shall live by them.
6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaks on this wise, Say not in your heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8 But what says it? The word is nigh you, even in your mouth, and in your heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if you shall confess with your mouth the LORD Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved.
10 For with the heart man believes unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture says, Whosoever believes on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same LORD over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the LORD shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, LORD, who has believed our report?
17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes truly, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses says, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.
20 But Isaiah is very bold, and says, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.
21 But to Israel he says, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.
The Greek word translated “submitted” in verse 3 above is hupotasso, meaning subordinate. It is a compound word from hupo, meaning under, and tasso, meaning to arrange in and orderly manner. Tasso is an eight-times used word only appearing once in Romans to tell of the ordering of powers. It is translated as “ordained” in Romans 13:1 where hupotasso is first translated as “subject.” It is telling of all subordinating to the higher power, seen and heard as it is manifested by God’s ordaining it (creating order in the chaos – as light into darkness – understanding out of confusion.)
This is what Paul is speaking of in Romans 8 when he tells of our being predestined to this right ordering.
Romans 8
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For you have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but you have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waits for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who has subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the first-fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man sees, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helps our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself makes intercession for us with groaning which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searches the hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because he makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
Romans 10
1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resists the power, resists the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Will you then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and you shall have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to you for good. But if you do that which is evil, be afraid; for he bears not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that does evil.
5 Wherefore you must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 For for this cause pay you tribute also: for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor.
2 Peter 1
16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our LORD Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
17 For he received from God the Father honor and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; where unto you do well that you take heed, as unto a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost [as the Spirit moved upon the face of the waters. Genesis 1:2]
Ephesians 2
1 And you has he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past you walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, has quickened us together with Christ, (by grace you are saved;)
6 And has raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
8 For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God has before ordained that we should walk in them.
11 Wherefore remember, that you being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus you who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
19 Now therefore you are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow-citizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together grows unto an holy temple in the LORD:
22 In whom you also are built together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Ephesians 3
1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,
2 If you have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
4 Whereby, when you read, you may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
6 That the Gentiles should be fellow-heirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.
8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;
9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our LORD:
12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.
13 Wherefore I desire that you faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.
14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our LORD Jesus Christ,
15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passes knowledge, that you might be filled with all the fullness of God.
20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
I was suggested this web site by my cousin. I am not sure
whether this post is written by him as no one else know such detailed about my trouble.
You’re incredible! Thanks!
Please let me know if you’re looking for a writer for your site.
You have some really good articles and I think I would be a good
asset. If you ever want to take some of the load off, I’d absolutely love to write some articles for your blog in exchange
for a link back to mine. Please shoot me an e-mail if interested.
Thank you!
Way cool! Some very valid points! I appreciate you writing this article and also the rest
of the website is really good.
Wonderful post! We will be linking to this great content on our website.
Keep up the good writing.
Hi, I do believe this is a great website. I stumbledupon it 😉 I will
revisit once again since i have saved as a favorite it.
Money and freedom is the greatest way to change, may you be rich and continue
to guide other people.
Aw, this was an extremely good post. Taking a few minutes
and actual effort to make a top notch article… but what can I say… I put things off a whole lot
and never manage to get nearly anything done.